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're going over the cliff. it's hard to tell. the expectation, even if we go over the fiscal cliff. right now, congress is still looking at trying to resolve this here in the next few days. so it's not as if we go over the cliff and stay there. there would be time to resolve the issue. that being said, we saw a whirlwind of negotiating on capitol hill. and right now, after things sort of didn't work out between mitch mcconnle and harry reid, the top republican and top democrat in the senate, they have shifted between mitch mcconnell and vice president joe biden. that's where all of the action is right now. keeping the speaker of the house john boehner abreast of what's going on. keeping harry reid abreast of what's going on and keeping president obama abreast of what's going on. we heard from senator reid yesterday that they are very far apart. not just talking on the threshold, initially president obama said $250 mi,000. there is talk to bumping that to $400,000. republicans want to know how we pay for it. there are farm subsidies, the doc fix. and spending cuts. so there is a lot to be reso
the fiscal cliff negotiations with the jets right there. sanchez had his best game of the season in week one against the bills. he threw for three touchdowns. the jets won back then. >>> to the nba, where the nets gave avery johnson his walking papers yesterday. they fired him after 2 1/2 years with the team. the nets who had high expectations because of a new arena, have slumped badly over the past month. they're 14-14 right now. sitting in seventh place right now in the eastern conference standings. yesterday, johnson addressed the call to let him go. >> you're a .500 team, two more home games at home that something like this would happen. this is ownership's decision. this is what we sign up for, i talked to you about this a couple of days ago, this is part of our business, fair or unfair, it doesn't matter. >> the nets assistant p.j. carlesimo will become the interim head coach. espn reports that phil jackson is the top target as the replacement. jackson's agent told him that he has no interest in coaching the nets. >>> coming up on morning joe, general norman schwarzkopf, passes away at
are higher as investors remain laser focused on the fiscal cliff negotiations and right now the dow up about 70 points right now and that could break the string of five straight losing sessions on wall street. now joining me is sue herrera. how are you investors feeling? >> i think rather uncertain because as the president said, the deal is in the works but it is not done yet. wall street is aching for a deal. we saw that as the president was speaking at 1:30 p.m. eastern time. the dow jones industrial average up 75 and then mentioned the fact that we weren't getting the deal done right now at this very minute. we sold off on the trading session so wall street needs some certainly. it doesn't need a band aid approach and unfortunately it looks like that's what we're going to get. that's probably better than going over the fiscal cliff but wall street's a very fickle place and they like more certainty than right now. >> cromwell much, he said in the past that what needs to happen to get the deal done in washington is that wall street, the markets need to give them a pistol whipping. that's wh
. right now they're frozen. sfwloop the country hasn't officially gone over the fiscal cliff, but the uncertainty that senator barber boxer has talken about, may have already taken its toll. the dow is flat after it shed nearly 2% last week. the losses can pile up even more. according to the congressional budget office, the combination of dramatic spending cuts and tax hikes in the fiscal cliff could slow economic growth by a half a percentage point and send unemployment up to 9.1% over the course of 2013. the nonpartisan tax policy center calculate that is the average middle class family would see its tax rates -- its tax bills rise next year by $2,000. the fiscal cliff isn't the only thing rattling the economy. in just a few weeks lawmakers will begin battling over the debt ceiling. you may recall that in the summer of 2011 the debt limit standoff led to the first ever downgrade of the nation's credit rating. joining us now from capitol hill is cnbc's aman jabbers. appreciate you helping us make sense of all of this. >> happy new year. thank you for having me. >> on a less
the press when it comes to the fiscal cliff handling, is that the right way to start the negotiation with two days left before the fiscal cliff or shouldn't he sit down and hammer out a deal with the senate republicans and house republicans. do you think a deal gets done? >> i do think a deal will get done. i think it might january 1st. i think we will briefly go over the fiscal cliff. the president worked on the issue months and months. the entire "crisis" is an issue of congress' own making . he was taping the meet the press on saturday. house republicans were cozy and doing nothing on the fiscal cliff. john bone bone took himself out of the negotiations and abdicated responsibility and said he would dole with whatever the senate and president had come to. i happening there is a lot of good proprosals on the table and something will get done, too. >> dave: it appears that senate republicans came a long way in sharing their desire for no taxes raised on the wealthy. $550,000 thres hold for couples is a significant compromise. but can they get anything through the house in terms of g
approaching fiscal cliff. stock futures are stating right now, on hopes set a round of talks in washington will lead to a breakthrough in the fiscal cliff negotiations. fair to reach a deal could push the u.s. economy into recession. the cethe uncertain see has taken a toll on markets. stocks were sold off for four straight sessions as hopes for a substantial budget agreement have diminished, and all three indexes are on track to end of december in negative territory. the dow was down 150 yester day but closed down just 18 points. after work week that investors in the house of representatives would be reconvening on sunday. >> amazon has announce this year's holiday sales as their biggest ever. consumers purchased 306 items per cent and on their peak day this season. amazons says that customers ordered 26 and a half million items on cyber monday. that's a new record for the online retailer. amazons set another record on christmas day for digital download. the kendall continues to dominate the web sites best sellers. the kendall fire 80 tablet leading the way. >> annual research study revea
out there. you are right he was pounding the same message again and again f. we go up the fiscal cliff for not meeting them halfway. >>> not because democrats and congre congre congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate but i think it has been hard for speaker boehner and republican mcconnell to accept the fact taxes on wealthiest should go up a little bit sweas well as a deficit reduction package. if they can't say yes to good offers i have an obligation to make sure the entire burden of deficit reduction doesn't fall on seniors who are relying on medicare. >> republicans are expressing frustration saying the president is trying to put the blame on them for going off the cliff but when senator mcconnell was brought a few days ago mcconnell's office says he got a call from senator reed or democrats to talk about the fiscal cliff in about a month. they feel like they have not gone the extra pile here. >> the vice president getting a call today. what do they make of all of that? >> that could be a big deal. it shows the white house push back they are going to say look he has been pull
tonight. so we are going over the fiscal cliff, isn't that right? >> reporter: technically, that's absolutely right, you're right. because to not go over the cliff, both houses of congress will have to pass something to avert that, and the president will have to sign it. so that is true. and that is why, as i said, politically, there aren't a lot of -- there are some people who aren't that upset about it, because it kind of makes the medicine go down a little bit easier when they vote on these cuts. having said that, we've heard from democrats in particular, for weeks now, that, you know, to sort of take a deep breath, that yes, it is called the fiscal cliff, but it is more of a slope, and particularly advantageous to members of congress who haven't got be their work done that january 1st is a federal holiday. so nothing is going to happen and there aren't going to be any real-world effects, especially when we're talking about the thing that really matters the most to a lot of people around here, just how the market is reacting. we saw the market go up today at news, seemingly at
the fiscal cliff, the house of representatives saying they will not vote tonight and right now we are going over the fiscal cliff but they are getting a raise. >> it makes no sense at all. the president issued an executive order affecting a lot people, a lot of workers in the executive branch and in congress, as well, and also affects the vice president, and the speaker boehner and all these guys are getting a pay raise while this is happening. i cannot imagine the public is going to view this positively when they see congress unable to make the most basic decision about how they receive for the next year and the president gives them a pay raise. >> it is not percent began dick pay raise, the vice president pay will increase from $225,000 to $231,000 a year but, again, the timing is curious. what do you think was going on? >>guest: many are not getting any raise across america, and many americans are looking for work. this is also something different, i called up someone on capitol hill and said, the president gave you a pay raise, doesn't congress handle that itself? there is a separation
of that looming fiscal cliff. 15 hours from right now the u.s. economy will go over that cliff unless congress and the white house can work out a last minute deal. if there is no new budget deal by midnight tonight, east coast time, income tax rates will go up for all americans. coming up at 6:15 the new numbers that are being thrown around this morning. >>> it is 6:07. starting tomorrow alameda county grocery stores and most other stores that sell food or alcohol cannot distribute plastic bags to their customers. in place of the single use bags stores are allowed to use paper or reusable bags but they have to charge at least a dime for each bag. customers are being encouraged to bring their own bags when shopping. restaurants can still provide plastic bags to customers. >> i'm trying to remember. >> some of the places i go they give you a discount. they give you five cents if you bring your own bag. >>> time now 6:08. tara is back to talk about your commute. you're also telling us about free rides for new years eve. >> that is right. muni is free from 8:00 tonight until 6:00 tomorrow morning.
. >> that's right. half of the fiscal cliff is the fact that the bush tax rates are expiring midnight tonight. we've focused on that, whose taxes are going up, is it $250,000, or $400,000. the sequester, the spending cuts to the pentagon and elsewhere kick in. the bottom line is when you talk to republican senators they say the issue is not taxes, it's if you give the president more revenue he'll spend it on more government programs. >> senator harry reid should have made sure the senate passed a budget sometime in the last three years and it would be reconciled with the house and you would have a framework, a budget resolution. the fact we're down to the 59th minute of the 11th-hour and a couple elected officials and unelected staffs behind closed doors doing a back room deal is an outrage. >> in the final moments, a key development is that vice president joe biden has been in delaware for the weekend. he came back a few hours ago and is huddled behind closed doors, two phone calls with mitch mcconnell. a year and a half ago, it looked like all hope was lost and vice president with h
like this? "the kudlow report" starts right now. let's get the latest on the snag on the fiscal cliff talks and surprise news we are going to reach the debt ceiling in days instead of just a few months. john harwood has the details. what's going on? >> not a whole lot of actions going on. although there have been some developments. let me bring our viewers up to date on those. first of all, treasury secretary geithner this afternoon announced the united states would hit the statutory debt limit on monday. that's new year's eve. that's part of an effort to pressure congress to act to raise the debt limit which may or may not be direct limb reply indicated in the fiscal cliff talks but it is relevant to the larger issue of debt and deficits. the treasury can move money around in certain ways to extend the point where we actually reach a crisis for probably a couple of months. but this is an early warning sign. secondly, republicans in the house sent word to democrats in the senate, white house, it is your turn now. we acted to put off the fiscal cliff several months ago with a bill that
with me here, fiscal cliff. no vote yet, no agreement yet. and not a lot of time left. can you say one more day? we're going to start with the secretary of state, hillary clinton, hospitalized with a blood clot. it was discovered today during a follow-up exam. doctors say it is related to a concussion she suffered earlier this month. you'll recall the former first lady was suffering from a stomach virus when she fainted. i want to bring in cnn's chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta. she was just cleared to return to work this week, and now this. >> first of all, there are a couple things that are important. admittedly, the details are vague, don. it sounds like she went in for a routine exam, they found a clot, a blood clot, they did not specify where this clot was located. she's hospitalized on blood thinners, anti-coagulants, as you mentioned. these are important points. from a medical perspective, first of all, finding this on a routine exam means that she didn't go in for some particular new problem or concern. and the fact that she's on blood thinners, specifically for th
to continue to drive me. and i think that the issue that we're dealing with right now in the fiscal cliff is a prime example of it. what i'm arguing for are maintaining tax cuts for 98% of americans. i don't think anybody would consider that some liberal left-wing agenda. that used to be considered a pretty mainstream republican agenda. and it's something that we can accomplish today, if we simply allow for a vote in the senate and in the house to get it done. the fact that it's not happening is an indication of you know, how far certain factions inside the republican party have gone where they, they can't even accept what used to be considered centrist mainstream positions on these issues. now i remain optimistic, i'm just a congenital optimist, that eventually people kind of see the light. winston churchill used to say that we americans, we try every other option before we finally do the right thing. after everything else is exhausted, we eventually do the right thing. and i think that that's true for congress as well. and i think it's also important for americans to remember that polit
that they are getting something done, the fiscal cliff meeting at the white house right now. what were the mechanics of rushing the deal through congress and getting it passed into law? what would that look like in four days? lisa desjardins joins us now. what will it look like? >> well, there is a couple of possibilities, don. one is that they take sort of the remnants of one of the bills that passed the house or the senate and they just change it. they add whatever is in this deal to it. they have a whole bunch of vehicles that are possible for that. one sticking point, because this deal would most likely deal with taxes, there is a rule in the constitution that is has been interpreted by most every side to determine it has to begin in the house, revenue measures begin in the house. they need a bill that starts in the house, okay, they have a lot to do that. then the trick is making sure they have the votes. i think if we see anything come out of tonight's meeting, anything substantial, that's what is going to happen this next day and a half. leaders on both sides have to make sure they have got t
minute talks to avoid the fiscal cliff. barbara boxer is talking right there on the senate floor of the house and senate both in rare new year's eve sessions today ahead of the deadline that triggers across the board tax hikes with dramatic cuts in military and domestic spending. joining us now bob cusack the manage evening editor of the hill the. great to have you here today. >> great to be here. >> many americans are frustrated that congress has taken us to the brink once again with little or no progress. what are you hearing at this moment? is there progress at this time? >> well, we are hearing that there has been progress between vice president biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. still we are nearly 12 hours from the cliff. we don't have a bill. there has actually been a stunning lack of urgency on cant toll hill. on the default showdown, the government shut down there was more urgency. here there just isn't that urgency, maybe because the markets haven't been the roller coaster we thought they would be. eventually people will see less money in their paychecks
that the sh we're dealing with right now in the fiscal cliff is a prime example of it. what i'm arguing for are maintaining tax cuts for 98% of americans. i don't think anybody would consider that some liberal, left wing agenda. it used to be considered a mainstream agenda. and it's something we can accomplish today if we simply allow for a vote in the senate and in the house to get it done. the fact that it's not happening is ancation of, you know, how far certain factions inside the republican party have gone where they can't even accept what used to be centrist mainstream positions on these issues. i'm an optimist. we try every other option before we finally do the right thing. after everything else is exhausted, we eventually do the right thing. and i think that's true for congress, as well. and i think it's important for americans to remember politics have always been messy. people have been asking me a lot about the film "lincoln" and -- >> is this your lincoln moment? >> well, no. look, i never compare myself to lincoln and, b, the magnitude of the issues are quite different from
to drive me. and i think that the issue that we're dealing with right now on the fiscal cliff is a prime example of it. what i'm arguing for are maintaining tax cuts for 98% of americans. i don't think anybody would consider that some liberal left-wing agenda. that used to be considered a pretty mainstream republican agenda. and it's something that we can accomplish today if we simply allow for a vote in the senate and in the house to get it done. the fact that it's not happening is an indication of how far certain factions inside the republican party have gone where they can't even accept what used to be considered centrist, mainstream positions on these issues. now, i remain optimistic. i'm just a congenital optimist. that eventually people kind of see the light. winston churchill used to say that we americans, you know, we try every other option before we finally do the right thing. after everything else is exhausted, we eventually do the right thing. and i think that that's true for congress as well. and i think it's also important for americans to remember that politics has always b
the the fiscal cliff. everyone's taxes as of right now set to go up january 1st. do we have the countdown clock up? we'll get that up later, but here is where congressional leaders and the president stand on the fiscal cliff, listen. >> but whatever we come up with is going to be imperfect, some people are going to like it, some people like it less, but that's where we are and i feel confident that we have an obligation to do the best we can. >> a good meeting down to the white house. we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself, and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make hess to his conference and we'll be working hard to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours and so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody can get 100% of what they want. let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and in fact the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jo
right enough to get something done on the fiscal cliff. we saw the president this harch meet with the bipartisan leadership in congress. remember the republicans because of the intransigence we talked about their caucus sought the speaker es plan for a plan b. that weakened the republican negotiating position . and now the president has maximum leverage because the tax cuts are due to expire by the end of the year. mitch mcconnell said he was hopeful and optimistic that they could get a deal that they could pass. the reason that that could happen if mitch mcconnell lets it happen, john boehner may feel no option but to put that on the floor for pass adge whether or not most republicans are for it. that would be the realization of that -- >> wouldn't that violate the principle that would have govern the policy that nothing wowlingd pass unless the yort of the majority support it. >> it would violate the principle. some democrats think that mitch mcconnell is ready to force john boehner's hand. we know the republicans are going to lose the fight of taxes because tax rates are g
clinton. she's in the hospital right now with a blood clot. we've been talking about the fiscal cliff, as you heard, brian lizza say, there's no agreement yet, and not a lot of time left. the latest on both next. [ buzzing ] bye dad. drive safe. k. love you. [ chirping, buzzing continues ] [ horn honks ] [ buzzing continues ] [ male announcer ] the sprint drive first app. blocks and replies to texts while you drive. we can live without the &. visit sprint.com/drive. >>> getting close to the bottom of the hour, we want to get you a look at the headlines right now. hillary clinton has been hospitalized. this after doctors discovered a blood clot. the former first lady had been cleared to go back to work when doctors made the discovery. she suffered a concussion after fainting a couple weeks ago. she had a nasty stomach virus and collapsed from dehydration. we have a live report coming up in a couple minutes. >>> the other big story is the action or inaction on capitol hill. if lawmakers do not reach a fiscal cliff agreement, you could see your taxes sky rocket and deep spending cuts kic
lawmakers do not appear close to reaching a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff we may be going ov going over. >> secretary of state hillary clinton in the hospital right now doctors discovered a blood clot. you can forget about days we are down to hours for law americas to reach a deal. >> doug luzader live from washington with the latest. doug? >> a deadline is hours away come midnight. it's not just the tax hikes that are scheduled to hit it's big cuts in government spending as well. 2013 could be off to a difficult start if there is no resolution. listen to this bleak assessment from capitol hill. >> the future of the country rests in the hands of 70 and 80-year-olds who have jet lag it's probably not the best thing. >> could joe biden be the fix? he appears to be taking over for democrats after a counteroffer to prevent a big tax hike is met by silence. harry reid says democrats couldn't respond. >> there is still significant difference between the two sides but negotiations continue. there's still time left to reach an agreement and we intend to continue negotiations. >> i am willing to
. >> so despite its name, a lot of strategists say that the fiscal cliff will not hit the economy right away and that could give lawmakers some time to continue negotiating, perhaps, but it's unclear how long the market will tolerate that uncertainty. so, what if no deal is reached and no action is taken? >> well, heather, i actually believe that might be the best outcome of all. when we look at it, there's not really a cliff. what happens on wednesday morning, the first day of the year, we'll roll out of bed and put the gasoline in our car and go to work. so there's not going to be a big change immediately. there will be an increase in taxes, something that's already been agreed to. you know, 12 years ago they agreed to the bush tax cuts would have a sunset provisions and the cuts to spending that will occur were agreed to two years ago with the debt ceiling agreement. so they already have a compromise agreement, they're just trying to change that compromise. >> and speaking of change, what if a partial deal is reached, which is what we're talking about right now, through possibly that
from the nation's capital. you know, the final 48 hours ticking away to the fiscal cliff deadline. will there be a deal or will the $500 billion in spending cuts and tax hikes actually kick in? right now, negotiations going on behind closed doors. this while president obama has joined leaders in it both parties to make the case to the american people by appearing on the morning public affairs programs this morning. both sides pitching their proposals. but at this late point, some say any chance that congress has of averting the fiscal cliff will take serious late night legislative wrangling. good morning. i'm eric shawn. i'm heather childers in for jamie colby. without a deal the countdown to 2013 also a countdown to smaller pay checks for nearly all americans as the fiscal cliff tax hikes are set to take a bigger bite and the military facing serious cutbacks along with other federal programs that millions of americans count on. >> ed henry live at the white house with the latest on the negotiations. ed, we are really getting down to the wire. what did the president say this morni
's the thought on the fiscal cliff and look where we are right now. we can work it out after the election is out of the way, and here we are and we haven't worked it out. >> but if we go over the cliff, let's say it is fixed on january 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and can be fixed retroactively, right? >> right. >> this is a also bit of a drama everyone has whooped up? >> depends on how you look at it. you talk to some analysts and they say if you go over the cliff, markets will collapse easily and others say it's more of a fiscal slope you gradually begin to go. but the congressional budget office says as we work our way into 20 some -- 2013, they say aisling we will find ourselves in a recession. >> thank you, senator. >> thank you. >>. >>> they say if reports are right, if the benghazi reports are right, the state department maybe playing musical chairs. and donald trump is here. he said republicans have a nuclear weapon. what does he mean? he is here to tell you. and what do you think is the biggest story to hit the entertainment world this year? now it's your turn to tell us. go on gretawire.com and post
? gregg: congressional leaders are on the floor right now talking about the fiscal cliff. this after senate majority leader harry reid said, yesterday, a significant distance remains in negotiations on resolving this. notwithstanding then about 48 hours of intense talks about spending and social security. >> i was really gratified to hear the republicans taking their demand for social security benefit cuts off the table. the truth is they should have never been on the table to begin with. there is still significant difference between the two sides but negotiations continue. >> i'm concerned about the lack of urgency here. we all know we're running out of time. this is far too much at stake for political gamesmanship. we need to protect the american families and businesses from this looming tax hike. everyone agrees that that action is necessary. gregg: steve hayes, is the senior writer for "the weekly standard" and a fox news contributor. steve, great to see you. the deal being bandied about right now to raise taxes on higher earners actually doesn't appear to do anything to fix the
? this is kind of very structural pressures. >> that's right and that's what underlies the fiscal cliff. they're looking out beyond 2020, all these people retiring, providing defense costs more and more because of less efficiencies in government stuff so the calculus isn't good. it isn't good for us or anyone but there are things to do. there are a lot of things we can do better, more private infrastructure spending, improving our education system, making entitlement systems, means tested. >> shifting federal spending from consumption to investment as for the future. >> all right, ken thanks very much, and we'll be leaning on you for guidance over the course of the next few days. >>> who doesn't want a little eva longoria in her life. she's helping fellow latinas get a college education. are easy with free pickup from the u.s. postal service. we'll even drop off boxes if you need them. visit usps.com pay, print, and have it picked up for free. any time of year. ♪ nice sweater. thank you. ♪ >>> yesterday we brought you the shirtless matthew mcconaughey. today something the men at the desk
ticking louder. the nation inching closer to this fiscal cliff. we could be just hours away from seeing all of our paychecks shrink. we're following all the last minute drama to avoid that, of course. brianna keilar is covering this morning's urgent talks happening in washington. christine romans is here to talk about the impact first, and alison kosik with how investors are reacting this hour. >>> first, another story. the health condition of the nation's top diplomat. this morning secretary of state hillary clinton is waking up now in a new york hospital. she is being treated for a blood clot that formed after her fall and concussion that happened a few weeks ago. want to bring in dr. sanjay gupta, our chief medical correspondent. sanjay, explain this for us because, first of all, when you think about it, she developed this blood clot related to a concussion. you would think maybe the clot formed in the brain, but that's not necessarily the case. >> no, it's not necessarily the case. and i think saying it's related to the concussion, that may be putting that wrong impression possibly
in our fiscal cliff discussions is a lot of craziness, right? when money is out there and there is a limited amount of money you'll see a lot of weird things happen and you'll see that over a long period of time. this will not be the last headline you read about a municipality having to go through some sort of legal, you know, wrangling to try to get bond holders paid back or keep a pension going. that happens when you have a bad economy. and california is a terrible economy and the united states is right behind it. arthel: san diego figured it out. san jose figured it out. they restructured the pension payouts, why can't the other cities do that? >> that is a good yes question. and i think that's what it will come down to, who is running these organizations, why are they getting paid so much and who is making the decisions. at some point you'll see trustees come in and hopefully sounder minds. for right now you'll continue to hear this. even though san diego fixed theirs and san jose fixed theirs sometimes that is a little bit of -- we'll probably see that revis
, right? gregg: stay in bed. heather: more on the fiscal cliff. president obama and top congressional leaders set to meet at the white house in about 30 minutes in a last-ditch effort to avoid tax increases on nearly all americans and a fiscal crisis, but what we've heard so far a is lot of fingerpointing. no solutions. no signs of progress for president obama. this left haven't hour scramble represents a test how he would balance the power of his re-election with his commitment to compromise. so who is to blame if both sides can't bridge the divide? tara dowdell, democratic strategist, with former jim mcgreevey and david webb, accident cirrus xm patriot radio. good to see both of you. i want to begin with this. last night on fox news, this is what south carolina senator lindsey graham had to say about this meeting today. he said, quote, anytime you announce a meeting publicly in washington it's usually for political theater purposes. so, tara, is this all show? >> well i agree, obviously there is always some political theater going on in politics. i would say this year's oscar though
, could we possibly be on the verge of a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff? you are looking live right now at the white house. that's where something big is going to be going on. just about seven hours from now, it will be the sight of a high stakes meeting with president obama and the leaders of congress. and to weigh in on this is doug, live in washington more details. >> good morning. they're going to be talking today and maybe that in and of itself is something of an achievement. issues will be on the table in that room in the white house as they all gather around and one of the items that's being discussed here in washington, believe it or not, is the price of milk. more on that in just a moment. but the president did, in fact, return early from his vacation in hawaii yesterday. he is coming back for this big meeting at the white house. we don't know if there is a new white house strategy here or if there is going to a new offer from the president, but many republicans are not terribly hopeful. >> any time you announce a meeting publicly in washington, it's usually for political theat
in our country's history. there will be a deal to, quote, avert the fiscal cliff. your viewers should demand more than a deal, they should demand a solution. >> do you think it's the right idea to cave in if really the republicans do not believe this is the right thing for the best interests of the country, to go ahead and agree to having more expenditures, to not cutting any of these entitlements. this reckless spending has to come to an end at some points. we have the future and the children to think of. >> so much for a balanced approach. the bammed approach as near as i can do do exactly what i want exactly what when i want you to do it. but the reality is the house democrats will could be he -- gt enough involvements my vote will not one of them and the group of conservatives i run with will not be among the votes that vote for the so-called deal. but it will pass and we will be arguably further from a solution than we were this time last year. >> so you think a temporary fix is going to come to pass but ultimately, like you said, you and several of your colleagues that feel very
the fiscal cliff because that stuff happens automatically but the idea of a debt ceiling increase, they've told obama if you want a trillion dollars in higher debt and he needs that eight times in the next decade, you have to cut spending a trillion dollars. >> here, i'll ask you again. 0 i'm a republican congressman and i signed your tax pledge to not raise taxes. if someone says here's a bill that says if you sign this we will cut taxes for 98% of americans. how could you say no? my point is, the administration is winning the war of optics. if they played it out this way, do they not win? >> well, they've won the war of optics so far because everything's been done in camera. it's been done inside closed walls. if c-span and fox and -- were able to videotape the negotiations, the kind of thing we're learning now about how obama said i have no interesting in cutting spending, he's been lying for two months about his negotiationing position in the room. if people knew that, there would be serious unhappiness in his lack of seriousness with cutting spending. if the negotiations were here
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. right now we have very well leverage in the debate over the fiscal cliff because that stuff happens automatically but the idea of a debt ceiling increase, they've told oba if you want a trillion dollar in higher debt and he needs that eight times in the next decade, you have to cut spending a trillion dollars. >> here, i'll ask you again. 0 i'm a republican congressman and i signed your tax pledge to not raise taxes. if someone says here's a bill that says if you sign this we will cut taxes for 98% of americans. how could youay no? my point is, the administration is winning the war of optics. if they played it out this way, do they not win? >> well, they've won the war of optics so far because everything's been done in camera. it's been done inside closed walls. if c-span and fox and -- were able to videotape the negotiations, the kind of thing we're learning nowbout how obama said i have no interesting in cutting spending, he's been lying for two mons about his negotiationing position in the room. if people knew that, there would be serious unhappiness in his lack of seriousne with
and no beauty. >> what? >> ed, truth be known, and we see this fiscal cliff and the calamity of the day on january 1st, tonight is true the white house dot much care if they get it on the first or the fifth? >> reporter: you're right, with withholding, some people will not feel the effects of a tax increase the first couple of days, you might have time to finagle that, the treasury department has that authority. the fact of the matter, what they're more nervous about in the white house and republicans on the hill are unclear what will happen. will it be a tarp moment like in 2008 when the tarp legislation got voted down and president bush was imploring the fell mrow republicans. it's a bitter pill to swallow. they voted it down and the markets plunged 5, 600, 700 points and everybody figured it out. what's going to happen with the markets, they're closed new years day, but when they open january 2nd, we have several consecutive days the markets have gone down not by a ton, but if they're plunging on january 2nd, that's what they're more nervous about. >> andrea. >> we've heard a lot of
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